Who buys content through Content Paradise?



  • @redphantom said in Who buys content through Content Paradise?:

    The 2 reasons I'm less likely to buy there are 1) I do a lot (almost exclusively) of fantasy and there is little fantasy there. 2) I don't like the 30-day download limit or the automatically putting in the extended download into your cart, even for freebies and if you edit your cart, it shows back up.

    Those seem like legitimate reasons. Of course I have a ton of fantasy 3d buildings there, myself ;-)

    I have wondered about the download limit as well. It seems to me that it is an 'upsell' in which SM can make money without paying a share of that to the vendor. I think that would be really good feedback for Smith to hear.

    Honestly, were someone to complain to me as a vendor, Id just set up an alternative download for them. All of the Read Me files are supposed to have links or addresses for vendor support.



  • @karanta
    This is actually a major difference I see between the philosophies of Smith Micro and DAZ.

    Smith Micro and the Poser team seem to support all Poser related products, regardless if they are being sold at CP or not. With SM and the Poser team, I am treated as a colleague. On the other hand, DAZ seems to treat anyone who isn't selling through DAZ3D's store as 'competition'.



  • @meshbox What's frustrating is Daz seems to treat its customers better than Content Paradise does. Not that CP is evil or anything, but CP's web site feels very dated, and not having unlimited free downloads of purchased content feels exploitive when compared to other sites.



  • Both Rendo and Daz allow you to re-download your purchases any time you need to. This is the gold standard in customer service as far as I'm concerned. Rendo still hosts old products for download that are no longer in their shop.



  • @ghostship So does Daz.


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    Tja,

    Most "selling sites" have to "live" from the content they sell so their prime focus is on presenting and selling content.

    CP is/was more of a by-product that came more or less accidently with the app and it never was a priority.
    Neither in funding, maintenance or development.


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    @willshetterly This expiring downloads are keeping me away from buying over CP.
    I had two years ago a real Armageddon . My PC crash for unknown reason, 2 harddrives die , one with my Poser runtime and the C drive.
    But not enough , my external harddrive was just plugged to , where all my resources, Poserstuff, I stored. This harddrive went to Nirvana also. I had to re download all my stuff again. DAZ, RDNA, Renderocity etc..all no problem. But some stuff which I had from CP , all lost ( My Miki collection, Terra Yuki). Hope they improve this in the store.



  • @Ladonna The stuff is not actually gone; you'll just have to pay the fee to get it activated for download again. For expensive items like Poser software, I had no choice when my systems had a major failure. I paid the money to get access to my software. As for content, it's tough to have to pay again for every purchase transaction in the past.


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    @ibr_remote Yeah, thanks. But I could really not get over me to pay for old contents again. Even when I miss this old collection.



  • @meshbox said in Who buys content through Content Paradise?:

    Those seem like legitimate reasons. Of course I have a ton of fantasy 3d buildings there, myself ;-)

    I had been referring to but clothes, but I'll have to check out your store for things I may need. Thanks



  • I haven't bought much there since the redesign, a lot of it has to do with the expiring download BS that they implemented. The other issue, when CP switched over I lost my purchase records for Miki1, Miki2, G2 Olivia, G2 Jessie, all the G2 line of clothing and a lot of other stuff made for that generation of figures. If I ever lose my install files it's all gone and I don't want to deal with that with my newer content if they ever decide to finally redo the site.



  • @willshetterly said in Who buys content through Content Paradise?:

    @meshbox What's frustrating is Daz seems to treat its customers better than Content Paradise does. Not that CP is evil or anything, but CP's web site feels very dated, and not having unlimited free downloads of purchased content feels exploitive when compared to other sites.

    I don't particularly like that either. Supposedly a new site is on its way though so I am hoping we will see that changed ;-)



  • I don't buy at CP because I get tired of sorting through page after page of junk, even after using their search feature. Their search is as bad as the one at Renderosity - it seems to just randomly throw up completely unrelated products that you have to plow through hoping to find what you are looking for.

    I just give up in frustration every time.



  • Let me say something on the up-side as a 'vendor' here.
    CP gives me a place totally under my control where I can make my stuff available access it at any time. I have full control over pricing, sales, and so on. If I think marketing activities are due I have to do them myself. It is a bit like having your own store without the hassle of business administation. .

    The place is a storehouse, not a store. In fact you need to know what you are looking for, go there, take it from the shelf and pay at the checkout. It is a different approach which I find quite relaxing.
    Yes, the extended download is something typical, sometimes annoying. Maybe I am old-fashioned but if I buy a book in a bookshop and I lose it, can I go back to get a new one? It is something I can live with all right.



  • I do buy from there... but as a last resort, if I can't find something elsewhere, thanks to the before mentioned time limited downloads.


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    I buy from Content Paradise.

    I don't take issue with the download policy; I copy all purchased content to remote hard drives and flash drives. I also make periodic disk images (it's like a zip of your entire hard drive) of each workstation, stored on external hard drives which do not remain connected to any computer. But I certainly understand the desire for re-download privileges.



  • I haven't actually had much of a problem with buying anything of "poor quality" from CP, despite the misgivings of some people. Perhaps that comes from low expectations in the first place since that's bout all I hear, but then I've bought crappy stuff from Daz, Rendo and RDNA as well. Granted, it doesn't happen often at DAZ, but I'm really carefully about buying stuff from Rendo. In fact, more than I am from CP by comparison.



  • @F_Verbaas said in Who buys content through Content Paradise?:

    Let me say something on the up-side as a 'vendor' here.
    CP gives me a place totally under my control where I can make my stuff available access it at any time. I have full control over pricing, sales, and so on. If I think marketing activities are due I have to do them myself. It is a bit like having your own store without the hassle of business administation.

    That is a major positive for CP. My ability to control when and how something is released means I can address the needs of my customers as I see them, rather than leaving it to whatever internal planning the brokerage has. At other brokerages, vendors are merely 'suppliers' at best.



  • @willdial said in Who buys content through Content Paradise?:

    I've purchased some older items for Miki 1-4, Terai Yuki, and Sydney.
    I don't really like shopping there because of the 30-day download limit. I feel the automatically putting the extended download into the cart is complete rip off.

    I totally agree. I hardly ever look in CP unless I can't find the thing i want anywhere else. I have undownloaded items from renderosity waiting for me to download. Oh I'd say like a 100 or so. and I don't have to pay for unlimited downloads there. I feel a lot more happy shopping at renderosity.

    Love esther



  • When I first got Poser 7, it included a coupon for a free membership to their Passport Club, which I renewed when it ran out. Back then, one could purchase Renderosity's and RDNA's catalog through CP, plus e-Frontier had a good selection of items for the P7 figures, so I purchased everything from either DAZ or CP. However, about a year SM took over, the other two store's lines were dropped for whatever reason, and then the Passport Club was ended. Later, the store was redesigned, the limited-time downloads were instituted, and some vendors left at that time, most notably Phil Cooke.

    These days I check the First-Friday Bazaar sale (which was once a big deal, but now is mostly the same items on sale), but that's pretty much it. It's a shame; apparently it must not have been profitable enough, but it seems to be dying slowly from neglect...