List of Poser Vendors



  • @eclark1849
    Personally I have mine installed in the 'vehicles' runtime, which contains subfolders for 'land', 'water' and 'air', regardless of genre (fantasy, sci-fi, realism, toon). This structure holds ever since I introduced it 17 years ago ;-)



  • @Bytefactory3D Thanks for the reply, Martin. I'm trying to avoid as much redundancy as I can, which is hard to do. Some models, like space ships or their rooms and decks could fit into either... or. For example, the Bridge of the Enterprise could fit into Sci-Fi fantasy and since it is part of a spaceship it also qualifies as a vehicle.



  • @eclark1849
    I have been creating professional data base designs as a Technical Advisor for Co-Operatives in Uganda for a couple of year. In my opinion in our case here it is not feasible to create 'exclusive' categories. Things will always be mixtures of various dimensions.
    This is why I would favor to create as many as needed bi-polar ('yes' vs. 'no') dimensions as checkbox filters. Trying not to be redundant is good (even a basic requirement in database creation), but on the other hand: the more dimensions there are available to chose from, the more detailed search results are feasible.

    I look at it like those 'Venn diagrams' from mathematics, with i.e. three overlapping categories A, B and C.
    Something may meet A and B, but not C, another asset is equaly A and B but on top of that also C. Other times one might search for something out of C, regardless of whether it is any of A or B.

    So, a list of 'yes/no' categories could solve your problem? This way something can well be 'Sci-Fi' and also the same time 'Fantasy'. Or a spaceship's interior can the same time be a 'vehicle' and also an 'interior'.

    Just MHO, not intending to be a 'smart ass', smile...



  • @Bytefactory3D Martin, actually, I quite agree with you. I'd love to break this down into as many categories as I can, how ever time and constraints aren't on my side. May be eventually. Since I am doing this on my own, I may add more categories in the future.



  • @eclark1849
    I'm not a coder, but it sounds like you have three basic pathways open to you;
    one is an iterative keyword selection, so go to vehicles then filter from there by category (old, contemporary, sci-fi, fantasy) but that creates other problems... is a dragon fantasy transport or a creature/figure?
    The second option is to list the items under multiple categories. The dragon appears under both vehicle and creature.
    The third one is to go with the vendor description of their own content. If people can't find something it's not your fault!
    Do you go with Dewey or Linnaeus?



  • @piersyf The way it is right now, unless the vendor states otherwise, I'm going with what and where the category the store put it i. The Dragon would actually present a three pronged problem creature, Transport and animal.



  • Okay, I tried. I was going to use my Mac as a temp web server, so you guys could see what I was setting up. Sadly, apparently something has changed in the OSX software that would let me do that. I did have an older mac that I know would have let me do that by just dropping the right files i the right folder. Sadly, when I had my recent bout with heart failure, my relatives moved in and threw some of my stuff away, including that old mac. I could probably still do it with my current mac, but it involves learning some Unix commands and I'm not comfortable with that. I still have a host in mind however, but that means I can't put up the temp site like I wanted to. Sorry.



  • Got Some new concerns. Here's banner I want to use on the directory. I just made it today. I'm concerned about using the Poser name and logo on the site. I don't want anyone to think it's an SM site and I'm not sure if SM might have some legal concerns with it as well.
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  • Looks great



  • @eclark1849 said in List of Poser Vendors:

    Got Some new concerns. Here's banner I want to use on the directory. I just made it today. I'm concerned about using the Poser name and logo on the site. I don't want anyone to think it's an SM site and I'm not sure if SM might have some legal concerns with it as well.
    0_1501965050494_PCVD.jpg

    If you have doubts about it then it probably means others would as well.

    When I first looked at the design it did come across as official looking and I wouldn't use the logo, simply because post Poser companies didn't allow it - not sure about Smith Micro - only they could tell you.
    To get around the wording you could just distance yourself slightly - ie - Directory of Content Vendors for Poser ( the 'for Poser' distances you from the company in legal terms - petty I know, but saves a lot of cease and desists or worse in the long run)



  • @adi said in List of Poser Vendors:

    When I first looked at the design it did come across as official looking and I wouldn't use the logo, simply because post Poser companies didn't allow it - not sure about Smith Micro - only they could tell you.
    To get around the wording you could just distance yourself slightly - ie - Directory of Content Vendors for Poser ( the 'for Poser' distances you from the company in legal terms - petty I know, but saves a lot of cease and desists or worse in the long run)

    I have to agree with adi. Not using the Poser logo would go a long way to NOT making it look like an official Poser site. Switching around the wording of the Banner will also go a long way to setting it apart from anything directly related to Smith Micro.



  • @Miss-B Yeah, I think you guys might be right. I'll lose the logo and Change the name a bit. Still, I did want something to at least associate it more strongly with the Poser hobby, Just not the company.



  • Okay, changed the banner to reflect the earlier discussion.
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  • @eclark1849
    did you ever consider asking them? I mean, they could even be ready to authorize it as an 'official' vendors compendium?

    Around 2 years ago I used to ask Steve Cooper (by that time product manager for Poser) if it is okay to use the Poser logo in my promo renders, because I wanted to make it clear which ones were rendered in Poser, which ones in other applications. I told him I could of course just write 'Poser' instead, but the logo would be less disturbing in images.

    He answered 'just go ahead using the logo, after all it is advertisement for Poser and we even thank you'.



  • @Bytefactory3D I had dealings with Steve before, and would have felt more comfortable talking to him. I don't know any of these new people.



  • @eclark1849
    here is the response (email) from Steve, Ocr 2014:

    Please feel free to include Rendered in Poser Pro graphics or include the product logo on images you've rendered using Poser. The original 2012 version of the logos were provided freely by us for this purpose. The staff member who originally created these graphics is no longer with us, so updated versions have not been produced.



  • @Bytefactory3D said in List of Poser Vendors:

    here is the response (email) from Steve, Ocr 2014:

    Please feel free to include Rendered in Poser Pro graphics or include the product logo on images you've rendered using Poser. The original 2012 version of the logos were provided freely by us for this purpose. The staff member who originally created these graphics is no longer with us, so updated versions have not been produced.

    I used the 2012 versions to create new ones for PoserPro 11, and I had to look to the Wayback Machine site to even find them, since they're no longer available on SM's site.



  • @eclark1849 said in List of Poser Vendors:

    @Bytefactory3D I had dealings with Steve before, and would have felt more comfortable talking to him. I don't know any of these new people.

    The new team seems friendly enough. We've only had positive experiences so far.



  • @meshbox I'm just not making any assumptions.... yet.