Poser 11 SR7 is available



  • Can't edit my post to reflect that I have just re-downloaded the SR to find it hasn't been fixed yet.



  • @parkdalegardener

    It's the weekend, so there probably isn't anyone to rebuild the SR.

    It's just a false Positive, the quickest way to stop the warning is to report it to the anti virus software provider.

    The folks at the Daz forum should chill and look to their own software first before pointing fingers and accusing other companies - I have quite a few reports and posts with Daz and Norton reporting false positives with the Daz Studio software


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    Most, if not all, reports are from Avast!. So it is probably a false positive.
    I have used it for some time now and I do regular scans and nothing has showed up.



  • @wimvdb said in Poser 11 SR7 is available:

    Most, if not all, reports are from Avast!. So it is probably a false positive.
    I have used it for some time now and I do regular scans and nothing has showed up.

    There have been reports listed from AVG too. You're probably right that it's a false positive, but It's nice to know for sure.


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    No issues with Windows10 Home build 1703 and Windows Defender.
    Been using build 11.0.7.33971 it since day 1 it was in beta till now.

    I use PoserPro11 build 33971 on 3 different systems.

    Poser11(standard) build 33971 on a 10" netbook also with Windows10 Home and Defender.

    Must be a "false" warning, as I keep all my systems up to date, lean and clean.

    Main apps are: (after cleaning all the Windows junk files): LOL.

    • PoserPro 11.0.7.33971
    • Blender 2.78c (updated to latest build weekly)
    • Krita (3.2 beta 2 now)
    • Corel Paint Shop Pro X ( ha-ha, a very 32 bit oldie) LOL.
    • cr2editor
    • and CCleaner, (run daily) and that's all

    Even with this minimal app installs, LOL, I tend to forget more then I learn every day. LOL.



  • Yes AVG reports it as a threat. Yes it is a false positive. That is not the point.

    The point is that this installer is borked. There is something in the deployment that was changed from previous SRs. It works fine on a Mac. Reporting it to the AV companies as a false positive does nothing towards SM looking into why this is happening and fixing their installer so that their customers feel comfortable in subverting their system security. No corporate user would feel secure doing that and no IT dept. would allow it either.

    I understand that this is a weekend and nothing will be happening in the offices. I fully expect this to be addressed by SM asap however, and someone should pop in to reassure customers as to this fact.



  • I contacted SM support and received this response "Thank you for contacting Support. That is a Hueristic Warning because the file is modifying the applciation file."



  • @parkdalegardener
    ... maybe AVG has improved its heuristics?



  • @F_Verbaas could be. I get it on my Win7 install as well and that runs AVG. Blocked. Still; it shouldn't be an end user issue to solve and not everyone can shut down their virus scanning. Two different scanners block it which makes it a packaging issue. redphantom's reply from SM shows that. Either way I won't be installing as this user account does not have the rights to shut down a virus scanner.



  • @parkdalegardener The solution is to install all programs outside of the Programs folder that way the AV software won't see them. Of course the downside to that is true viruses will also install outside of programs folder and you will be back in the same boat. Of course companies that have their installs blocked by False Positives sound like they may have grounds for a lawsuit for defamation of character.



  • @parkdalegardener
    No, you are right, but things like this happen, though.
    I take it your AVG is up to date?



  • I updated using Win7 Pro and Comodo Antivirus and have no issues at all.



  • The problem is it is an end user issue. Where I work they have tighten up security so that nothing can be installed into the Programs Folder. Downloaded a firmware update for a project on a piece of AV equipment and the installer failed, because it was trying to write a file into the Programs Folder. Switched users and logged in as a Local Admin and was able to install the file. Same thing with a copy of program updates, unless I am logged in as a Local Admin nothing gets placed into the Programs Folder. Currently people can place and run programs outside the Programs Folder. However, because of all the Malware/Ransomware, I predicate that soon no program will be allowed to run unless it is in the Programs Folder. And the only way to install will be that you have to be logged in as a Local Admin.



  • @richard60 Well if M$ makes it impossible to install outside of Program Files, that'll be the day I switch to Linux, which I've been seriously thinking about in any case. That would just be the final pushed button against my sanity, so to speak.



  • Running the downloader / installer as an admin (if at all possible) should get rid of non AV install issues.
    as for the AV, there is usually a way to pause them temporarily (usually with a time limit option or an until reboot option) or the ability to add certain programs to an ignore list. There is also the ability with a good AV to report false positives.
    Either way, SM can't; nor should they be expected to code for every AV out there.

    I Scanned with IOBit malware scanner, no threats found, scanned with Kaspersky total security, no threats found.
    Installed with no problems ( windows 10 64bit ) Runs with no issues.



  • @richard60 said in Poser 11 SR7 is available:

    The problem is it is an end user issue. Where I work they have tighten up security so that nothing can be installed into the Programs Folder. Downloaded a firmware update for a project on a piece of AV equipment and the installer failed, because it was trying to write a file into the Programs Folder. Switched users and logged in as a Local Admin and was able to install the file. Same thing with a copy of program updates, unless I am logged in as a Local Admin nothing gets placed into the Programs Folder. Currently people can place and run programs outside the Programs Folder. However, because of all the Malware/Ransomware, I predicate that soon no program will be allowed to run unless it is in the Programs Folder. And the only way to install will be that you have to be logged in as a Local Admin.

    My software was installed as a user not an admin. It has received every SR as they came out. They were installed as a user. Not an admin. All updates to my Poser install will be as a user. Admin privileges are supplied as necessary.

    I have written software since cobol and fortran were the way to go. I am in complete understanding of UAC as it applies to Windows and can easily apply the update by disabling the AV software. On an isolated system I have done so.

    Being logged in as admin will not solve the issue. Disabling the AV will if you trust the file enough to do so. Disabling AV software is not something most corporations are willing to do for a simple software update.

    If SM can write 6 SRs for this product that do not require Anti-virus software to be disabled; there is no reason why they can not do so now. There was a suggestion that we as users should contact our av suppliers and inform them of a false positive. That is not my job as end user. The fact that more than one of the most popular av products block the install should be of interest to SM.

    As I have mentioned before. There is nothing wrong with the SR. It is the package delivery system making calls that have users on more than one operating system concerned about the safety of the product and the stability of the SR.



  • @parkdalegardener But the question is - is it reasonably possible for SM to create an installer that doesn't give a false positive with ALL av's ?

    As can be seen from the posts many of us have had no issues with the update - the fault must lie with the AV not the update and turning off your AV for 5 minutes doesn't mean the sky will fall.



  • I have Poser on a completely different drive and Avast still won't install the update. The problem is the updater looks for your program file first and only asks where your installation is when it can't find it in the program folder. I'm guessing Avast doesn't want the installer looking in the program folder at all for some reason.
    I'm running Windows 7 Pro. To install the update I turned off the router, turned off the Avast shields, installed the update, turned Avast shields back on, started the router. It took 2 minutes total, but shouldn't have been necessary. Also reported to Avast as a false positive.
    I ended up ditching the paid version of Avast because it insisted on running EVERY product installer through its sandbox. When rebuilding a runtime, that could have added weeks to the installation process.



  • @piersyf

    Just curious. Do you still have the SR6 file handy? I'd be curious to see if Avast does the same thing for SR6. If it does, then you can probably deduce that it is Avast. If it does not, then that would point to something in the SR7 installer.

    Just a thought.



  • @Deecey

    No, but I was using Avast when SR6 came out and it installed with no problems. Since then a few changes have occurred:
    I had to reinstall the OS, and currently I have UAC active whereas previously it was turned off.
    I had full admin privileges before, now I have a separate admin account and I use a user account to use the system. I had a virus that installed itself with full admin rights, so the current set up will at least warn me if something like that is attempted again.
    Avast may have changed the program.
    SM may have altered the way their updates load.
    I don't think UAC would trigger a warning from Avast.