Furred Cat With Poser Hair



  • @shadow_fyre said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    This morning I rendered some Poser room hair and got this result so the rendering worked with this. I am pretty clueless in the hair room, I wouldn't know how to change anything.
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    @redphantom said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    Dynamic hair strands render thinner in Superfly. You either need to increase the thickness of the strands or the number of strands. IMHO increasing the strands looks better, but it depends on what your computer can handle. A combination might be best.

    I just realized this is your hair I tried. Thank you for that.

    @anomalaus said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    @shadow_fyre I'm sure this isn't your problem, but you are rendering the last frame of the simulation, not the first, aren't you (in case it's not fully draped by the first frame [I have more experience with cloth than hair simulations, sorry])?

    I did try rendering in frames 1 and frame 30 but there is no difference.

    Also, so you can see the difference, this is the pre-rendered fur after recalculating is done. You can see it draping. The first 2 photos at the top of the page are after it's rendered. Since the hair I tried this morning seems to render correctly, I am clueless as to why the cat hair does not. Even if I knew how to add more hair, I don't think it needs it.
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    Without seeing your settings, my initial guess is that these are just the guide hairs. Can you show us your hair room settings?



  • @eclark1849 said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    Without seeing your settings, my initial guess is that these are just the guide hairs. Can you show us your hair room settings?

    I clicked on one of the hair groups, there are 38 BTW, and these are the settings. And yes, these are the guide hairs since it's not rendered in that last picture. I wanted to show the difference between before and after rendering.
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    @Glitterati3D Was your render in PP11.1?



  • Increase your tip width to .2 or .4. I don't know how big of an area that growth group is or what your poser units is set to. The hair density seems off too. I have mine set to inches and usually set the density to 600 to 800. That's the number you type in not the strand number. The strand number is based on the size of the area so it can vary quite a bit.



  • @shadow_fyre said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    @eclark1849 said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    Without seeing your settings, my initial guess is that these are just the guide hairs. Can you show us your hair room settings?

    I clicked on one of the hair groups, there are 38 BTW, and these are the settings. And yes, these are the guide hairs since it's not rendered in that last picture. I wanted to show the difference between before and after rendering.
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    @Glitterati3D Was your render in PP11.1?

    Also check show Populated check box. I would probably also increase clumpiness. :)



  • @shadow_fyre said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    @Glitterati3D Was your render in PP11.1?

    No, I have not upgraded since SR6.

    It's PP11 SR6.



  • Just a quick note on hair in PPro: IIRC when you sub-devide your mesh that the hair is growing from you will get lots more hair.



  • @ghostship said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    Just a quick note on hair in PPro: IIRC when you sub-devide your mesh that the hair is growing from you will get lots more hair.

    Sorry, that doesn't work. Poser ignores the extra vertices.



  • @redphantom said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    Increase your tip width to .2 or .4. I don't know how big of an area that growth group is or what your poser units is set to. The hair density seems off too. I have mine set to inches and usually set the density to 600 to 800. That's the number you type in not the strand number. The strand number is based on the size of the area so it can vary quite a bit.

    I changed the setting as suggested. Made sure I was using inches, changed each hair group Density to 200 as well as Tip Width to .4 and I also tried Root Width at 1.
    This greatly increased the Hair Density in the parenthesis. Most of the groups I changed were set anywhere from 2.xx-6.xx before I changed to 200. I left some groups unchanged as you can see, so the difference can be seen. So is this normal then? I will always have to change these settings with the product to make it look like this? At this point I am going to assume it's the product as I found an old P5 Hair Room hair and tried that and rendered without changing anything and it worked fine. Oh and yes, this greatly increased my render time!
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    @Glitterati3D said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    @shadow_fyre said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    @Glitterati3D Was your render in PP11.1?

    No, I have not upgraded since SR6.

    It's PP11 SR6.

    Ok, but it was PP11 none-the-less, just wanted to make sure. Can you tell me what Poser units you are using? I wish I could get the cats to render like you did. I even tried the medium and short hair cats and still got that same result.

    Also, can someone please help me out so I can respond in less than 9500 seconds???? This time-out is terrible when I'm ready to post right away.



  • @anomalaus Thank you so much!!! I'm free! :) :)



  • @shadow_fyre I just noticed this in your original post:

    This is the Millenium Cat with Tiny's Furred Cat upgrade, circa 2005.

    And, I thought I should mention that all my files are dated 2015 and I purchased Fluffy cat at Hivewire in December 2015.

    You may want to contact Tiny and see if there is an updated version which is why you are seeing such a difference from mine.



  • @Glitterati3D said in Furred Cat With Poser Hair:

    @shadow_fyre I just noticed this in your original post:

    This is the Millenium Cat with Tiny's Furred Cat upgrade, circa 2005.

    And, I thought I should mention that all my files are dated 2015 and I purchased Fluffy cat at Hivewire in December 2015.

    You may want to contact Tiny and see if there is an updated version which is why you are seeing such a difference from mine.

    Oh, that's very interesting! Thank you, I had no idea.



  • Yeah, the more strands you have, the longer the render times. For a long time hardware couldn't handle the number of strands needed, especially when it covers a whole figure. I believe that even when that cat was given fur, it pushed most machines.

    As far as needing to increase hair strands, each hair is different. You'll need to check a small portion of the hair to see.



  • Just an update. I solved the problem by getting the new and improved "Fluffy Cat" at Hivewire. I found out that the older version is not compatible with possibly P8 and above. It was much easier than fiddling with the hair room and looks really nice. Thank you to those that helped.

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