Should I give content creation another go?

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    On another side note.

    Sometimes end users send files to test because they run into trouble.

    Always the same issues.
    Unwelded parts. Intersecting meshes. Badly grouped meshes. Blindfolded releasing obj files exported from Poser without rechecking vertex order.

    Sometimes, REALY? It is unbelievable what gets offered/released by some stores.

    Quality control?
    I fear most vender sites do not even care. ( as long as the obj files are in the Geometries folder, and there is no poking, all is good.) => While SM has been putting them next to the cr2's as from poser 7 I think. LOL.
    It does NOT matter WHERE the obj file is. => But it has to be a good obj file.

    The quality of the obj file, the quality of the rig, the quality of the Diffuse textures are important.

    None of the vendor sites has been offering that quality control

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    I model a lot, but I still buy stuff also. If I tried to make everything myself, I'd never get a scene finished.

    I buy hair models, and clothes (preferably dynamic, except for armor) which fit my favorite genres: pixies, LotR elves, sci-fi. I'll buy plants and trees. Character morphs for the SmithMicro dolls, especially if they have TinkerBell/Galadriel style ear morphs.

    I like utility scripts; I've bought a lot of those.

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    Tony,Can not tell. Since a while we don't upload over DAZ stuff and when they test us hard.
    RDNA, I even don't want to talk about, because it was a huge massaker each time the tester do with the vendors. :) We call them "Eagle Eyes" . Renderosity, can not tell how hard. They have some issues, this is true. But maybe I was just unlucky.

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    Ach, perhaps I am being too hard. LOL.

    We have a lot of tools to customise content in these latest Poser versions.

    Symmetry tools, morph brushes, copy morphs from, fitting room and so on.
    All these tools work on or around the obj files.
    With a high quality obj file, the possibilities are almost endless.

    But with unwelded, or poorly grouped, or intersecting parts, or loose parts, or "vertex order lost" obj files, all these wonderful tools can turn any obj file into dust.

    For the most part: The quality of the obj file determines the quality of what is being offered.

    Then add : Converting DS stuff to Poser stuff, and yes, I see a lot of end users struggling.

  • @Ladonna To be fair, you're probably listening to the the wrong audience. We make a lot of our own stuff. The ones you want to catch and listen to are the users who are actually happy with just Poser 11, not the pro version. They're mostly rendering, which means they're mostly buying stuff.

  • I still buy content! I used Poser way back and have mainly use Daz Studio. Since then I have wandered back to Poser mainly because I don't like the direction that Daz is taking there product line.

    I am also thinking of making Poser content. I'll do it for fun, release things for free and see how it goes. This will give me experience and feedback so I can make high quality products that people want and can use. If I wanted to really make money I would go the Daz route, but Poser needs content and something that will turn heads. I can't promise what I will make will fit the bill but I'm going to give it a try lol.

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    Correct all.
    We "techies" are not representative of the customer base.

  • I've only been user for just over a year now, and I'm very much in the load pose render camp. I really do feel that many of the comments by the expert users, including those labelled "Poser ambassadors" can only turn away beginners and potential users who happen to be reading. If I believed everything I read on various sites, Pauline is completely unusable, the SM G2 figures can't be used because they have an asymmetrical mesh, and Victoria 4 is the best thing since sliced bread, or maybe 10 years out of date and should be avoided, and everyone use genesis 3. I haven't found any of the above to be true imho.
    I doubt if any new native Poser figure will be accepted by the community since it will never be the way some would have done it. It's very easy to toss around the term broken, when what you mean is not perfect.
    People should bear in mind that what they consider constructive critique is likely to look like damning criticism to those not in the know!

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    @j.naylor73 You are so right. I really don't like this negative way of thinking. I use Poser since version 4 Pro. I love Poser to pieces and even when I render with other applications also, Poser stay my Fav App. I spent many, many times on phone, with mails, forums, to help Poser user to get the best out of this Software.
    Clothroom, Hairroom, Shaderroom..pure fun.
    Poser is not just like click and render. Poser is more. Poser push you further. Gives you tools to improve your skills, learn, share.
    Most of the user are very nice. They share content, knowledge. This is what I love in the Poser community .Share.
    I understand that a few Poser user are a bit sad and negative, because it was a real shock what happens. But time to get again positive :)

    And yes, we need more great Posercontent . :)

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    Tony I agree here. Worst OBJ files are a real nightmare. But when quantity comes over quality...well.

  • 138 responses and counting. Would love to hit at least 150 by Wednesday.

  • My one issue right now is where to start. Which figure should I make my first content for? Roxie, Pauline, Dawn, V4? Any ideas from those that are interested in content?

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    I would be interested in Pauline content :) Pauline advanced.

  • @Ladonna said in Should I give content creation another go?:

    I would be interested in Pauline content :) Pauline advanced.

    I'll have to see about getting Pauline advanced - I believe I only have Pauline (Which ever comes with Poser 11 Pro).
    I'm going to start simple to get used to the work flow and rigging for Poser. :) So bear with me.

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    @Lotharen Pauline advanced was free over CP. Maybe still ?

  • @Ladonna said in Should I give content creation another go?:

    @Lotharen Pauline advanced was free over CP. Maybe still ?

    Thanks, just checked. She's not free anymore - was a limited time offer. I'm broke from my Poser 11 purchase but as soon as I can pick up a paypal card Ill purchase her to see what I can do. Will clothes made for Pauline work with the advanced version? Does anyone know?

  • The question in your survey about which figures do you use the most would seem to be the wrong question in my case, since the figures I use most are the figures I have the most content for, and us such are the figures I'm least likely to find new content for of interest.
    So I'm definitely interested in clothing for Pauline, or any of the SM figures providing it's novel.

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    @Lotharen No, the clothes does not fit her. Only the Dynamic clothes because she has extra bones.

  • @Lotharen said in Should I give content creation another go?:

    My one issue right now is where to start. Which figure should I make my first content for? Roxie, Pauline, Dawn, V4? Any ideas from those that are interested in content?

    I would highly recommend DawnSE/SR2. If you are just getting your feet wet in weight map rigging, she is the easiest to learn on since her rigging is so nicely done and 'mature."

    There are learning curves with Roxie, Miki4 and Pauline - I have rigged for all of them. Dawn is, by far, the easiest and most "elegant" to rig for. The others require rigging "tricks" to make it work.

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    Looking through technical glasses :

    When you study the obj files, the rigging, and the provided textures, Rex and Roxie are by far the best overall "Native Poser figures".

    All what comes before them has magnet issues or are not symmetrical.
    Up to 42 magnet errors for the Ryan-Alyson and Miki4 series, and Sydney is not symmetrical.

    Default Paul - Pauline have rigging issues, have mesh issues, and there are no quality Diffuse textures.

    When a vendor wants to build for the technically best Native Poser figures, and there certainly is a market here, they will have to choose Rex-Roxie.