What would YOU change about the Poser UI???



  • @trekkiegrrrl I like Tony, I really do. But he doesn't know everything and basically, if HE likes it or hates it, that determines what he wants. Now, I never said that any improvements to the UI would make Poser a better program, but improving the UI could indeed make the program easier to use for people, especially newer users. Now, in this thread I asked if people had improvements that they would make to the UI. I concentrated primarily on increasing the viewport real Estate. A number of the panels or windows basically just sit on my desktop, unused anyway, BUT when you close them, Out of Site, Out of Mind tends to come into play. Hence, moving them to the tabs means they take up less room, and are still visible if you need them. This makes the program more enjoyable , in my opinion, and me more likely to use it even more.

    I would LOVE for Poser to improve some of it's features. To be honest, a simple UI re-do for some of those like the Hair Room, Cloth Room and Bullet Physics features would also benefit the program and not only make those features easier to use, but more enjoyable. as well. And as I've said many times before, a new figure is not going to save Poser, unless it gives advice on investing in the stock market. And lastly, I'd much rather you forget the figures and leave those for others to do. From what I've seen those are usually done last minute anyway and not ver well. Where as, Interface redesigns in some cases can be done in a few days, so you literally can wait til the last minute.



  • I would be happy if the stuff they already have actually worked. If I was really drunk, I would wish for a button that removed everything from the library list that wasn't in the current scene. Then, during the subsequent hangover I would like poses for figures to be anywhere else than with all the other stuff (the Poser library is a bit better than Kindle library, but not by much).


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    Below is my normal workspace.
    But when working dual monitors? => ALL tools are on the second monitor, and the main preview/render/screen is full primary screen.

    As here below : Move everything that you always use over to the left side of the screen and remove what you do not use all the time like in my case the animation window.
    0_1534263185541_Poser-UI.png

    This is the closest you can get to normal life.
    One reads and writes from left to right, and this way all the tools are on the left side, (minimises mouse movement too), and brings a nice large workspace on the right.

    Library is hidden by default (bookshelf button upper right hand corner) and only opened when looking for something.

    Best regards, Tony



  • @tburzio said in What would YOU change about the Poser UI???:

    I would be happy if the stuff they already have actually worked. If I was really drunk, I would wish for a button that removed everything from the library list that wasn't in the current scene. Then, during the subsequent hangover I would like poses for figures to be anywhere else than with all the other stuff (the Poser library is a bit better than Kindle library, but not by much).

    Well .. To be fair, it's not Poser's fault that vendors ect lump MAT poses ect in with the poses. It could be nice with a dedicated Morphs folder, but ... (and while we're at it, the option of MAKING folders would be awesome. That way ppl could sort it to their likings. And do a Morphs folder if they wanted)


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    @trekkiegrrrl

    Hallo my dear, add a folder is possible in the current version of the library. => See screengrab.
    0_1534264174447_add a folder.png

    Hoover the mouse over the icon, and the "Add a Folder" pop up comes up. Click to create.



  • @vilters Tony, again, I can get a larger screen, particularly if I hide al the panes. But you and I have been doing this for quite sometime and we know where everything is. But what about the new comer who doesn't know where the document display is, or can't figure out how to create new lights? Or even the more experience user who still complains about Poser's lights?



  • @trekkiegrrrl

    It would be nice if the legacy vendors would join the 21st century and make .mc6 files (the standard since Poser 6, and put them in the Materials folder, but that would mean leaving the Poser 4 workflow behind, which I don't see happening.

    The good news is that Netherworks has a little product called Batch Material Converter, that will not only convert all of those pesky .pz2 material files to .mc6 miles, it will even move them to the Materials folder. I converted a 40Gb folder in less than 45 seconds.

    A LOT of the non-legacy vendors are adding a Morphs folder to put .pmd & .pz2 files that the end user should never touch. It would be nice if we could move all of the !DAZ and other vendor nonsense to that folder, but everything in those arehard-coded to location.



  • To be fair, it's not Poser's fault that vendors ect lump MAT poses ect in with the poses.

    Here's another wild wishing from my stupor-ed fog, how about changing the favorites area so that it is saved PER FILE, and is reloaded with the "open" command. Let me put what I want in, folders too, not just files. It's more manual than the automatic it should be, but this would fulfill all my dreams. Imagine, not having to search for buried library entries when opening a file... :-)



  • @ssgbryan

    That is how I have mine setup - libraries on one screen and viewport on it's own screen, if you click on the little arrows in the top right hand corner of each pallete, you will find you can undock them and move them around to suit yourself.

    Otherwise for me - I would change nothing, the current UI has worked for me since Poser 3, so I'm too old to change now.



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  • @tastiger said in What would YOU change about the Poser UI???:

    @ssgbryan

    That is how I have mine setup - libraries on one screen and viewport on it's own screen, if you click on the little arrows in the top right hand corner of each pallete, you will find you can undock them and move them around to suit yourself.

    Otherwise for me - I would change nothing, the current UI has worked for me since Poser 3, so I'm too old to change now.

    Apparently not, or you wouldn't have moved things around to suit yourself.



  • @eclark1849

    I was referring to the controls, not their actual layout....



  • @tastiger said in What would YOU change about the Poser UI???:

    @eclark1849

    I was referring to the controls, not their actual layout....

    Fair enough. But to be clear, I believe the layout of the controls confuses new users primarily by making the work space look cluttered. I'm not advocating a radical design overhaul however.



  • Of course if they do a redesign of the UI then they also need to deep 6 all the videos on the web talking about Poser since to a newbie they will make no sense since it will look totally different. Add an extra item or tab and you will have complaints about not being to use the materials on the web to learn how to use the newest version.



  • @vilters said in What would YOU change about the Poser UI???:

    @trekkiegrrrl

    Hallo my dear, add a folder is possible in the current version of the library. => See screengrab.
    0_1534264174447_add a folder.png

    Hoover the mouse over the icon, and the "Add a Folder" pop up comes up. Click to create.

    I think @trekkiegrrrl was meaning a new category rather than folder so being able to add to the "Figure", "Pose", "Material" tabs at the top of the library



  • @richard60 Based on thatpoint then, you're saying Poser has to stay exactly the way it is forever. Or, and this is a radical thought, they could simply do new tutorials or webinars. Look, there have been new features added and a few things moved around since Poser 9 and 10 for that matter.They did new tutorials.



  • @amethystpendant said in What would YOU change about the Poser UI???:

    @vilters said in What would YOU change about the Poser UI???:

    @trekkiegrrrl

    Hallo my dear, add a folder is possible in the current version of the library. => See screengrab.
    0_1534264174447_add a folder.png

    Hoover the mouse over the icon, and the "Add a Folder" pop up comes up. Click to create.

    I think @trekkiegrrrl was meaning a new category rather than folder so being able to add to the "Figure", "Pose", "Material" tabs at the top of the library

    Yes, exactly. A new category. Folders are nothing new :)

    Bad ophrasing on my part, sorry for the confusion :)



  • One paramount problem with Poser is that there are three facets to modeling, content creation, rendition and posing. Poser does a decent job at the first, a middling job at the second and fails completely at the third. Now, you may wonder, how could a program called "Poser" do so poorly at posing? It is a mystery to me, I have to admit. Even simple things are ignored, such as an agile naming system for new people so that each component need not have a unique name. We then have a pose architecture that is unable to deal with mammalian life and the bone structure that this imposes, so that any change in the scale of the mammal makes saved poses unusable. There are some restrictions after all, for example arms are rarely join the body at the hip. There is even the default that eyes can point independently, which is amusing but hardly helpful. No, a simple reordering of interface windows cannot disguise the real problem.

    Focus on posing, or change the name!



  • @tburzio So everyone but Poser gets it right?