Looking for Teen Boy for Poser


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    SuperFly Ben after converting to RMZ (Reduced Material Zones) => Body, lashes and Cornea => Existing textures merged vertically => And out the door at 6 pixel samples. LOL.
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    @Glitterati3D The scaling scripts are cool and useful but the main issue I always see with them is that they don't incorporate child proportions. Kids have significantly different proportions than adults. The average adult is 7.5 head lengths tall, while a toddler is only about 4 heads tall and a teen would be around 5 to 6 heads. Is there a way to adjust for proportions in the scripts? I have one of them, can't remember which one right now, or which version of Poser I installed it to.



  • @AmbientShade Well, when you're done, all the original figure morphs work fine, so with Dusk, you can certainly do whatever adjustments you prefer. And the mixer morph created has the ability to dial in height.

    However, I find the child proportions like in K4 to be over emphasized in 3D. The head is just waaaay too big in K4 which makes the 3D renders all look off.


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    @Ghostman LOL


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    @vilters How do you move your neck without to move your head? And the collar, I can put up and down my collar without that my head moves. What are you? Alien?


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    Hi Ladonna.

    Lift your arm without thinking about it. What happens?
    => Your collar lifts too. => And your arm/collar twists.

    Turn your head without thinking about it. What happens?
    => Your neck turned too. And the same happens in side/side and bend.

    Arms Up-Down, or head movements are not stand alone movements. The collars and neck always move with them. That's the kind of dependencies in the figure.

    But no worries, no JCM's. LOL.


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    @vilters We talk about this
    No neck or collar movement requirements.
    Your collar moves and you head can not move without neck


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    Their movement is activated automatically when moving head and shoulders.

    Example : Shoulders go up-down? Collars also go UP-Down and the arm twists. Just like in real life.
    The end user does not have the "need" to add a collar movement because that is added automatically by the dependencies.


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    @vilters Interesting, I am not sure this will work. I am not a Doctor, but this look to me anatomically and mechanically incorrect.



  • @Ladonna
    I think Vilters uses what is more a translation dial to define up-down and forward-aft movement of the shoulder joint. The shoulder then for posing has 5 dials, two of which control the position of the collar bone. Similar for the head, 5 (or 4) degrees of freedom for posing.
    It sounds like an interesting approach that in theory would allow a more natural pose control 'language'. It does not include impossible separate movements like twisting a collar or overlapping movements like twisting the head separately from the neck or bending it sideways separately.
    I find it interesting and I am looking forward to see the result.


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    @fverbaas I am not sure this will work.When you move your shoulder, the collar moves, this is right, but the collar is not only connected to the shoulder.This is a whole chain which snap into another. Block one or two of them , makes the whole pose look wrong. my POV. Or my imagination is not good enough to get the whole picture.



  • @Ladonna
    From what I understand th mechanism is exactly the same, but the method of control is different.
    to move the shoulder joint up by 2 cm while keeping the shoulder bone at the same angle, you can z-rotate the collar by 10 degres say bu then you must z-rotate the shoulder bone by -10 degrees to avoid the elbow jumping up by 10 cm. From what I understand Vilters wants to do that with a dial in the shoulder actor that controls the collar bone.
    You would use different controls but the result is the same.


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    @Ghostman said in Looking for Teen Boy for Poser:

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    Sort of totally goes against it doesn't it.

    Reeperbahn... lol


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    @F_Verbaas Sounds interesting, but I am still not convinced that this will work smooth. But I am open and hope he proof me wrong because this could solve a few problems.


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    it is way simpler as all you guys think. I"ll make a video about "How to get better bends". And as it is all in the rig, it transfers well to clothing in the setup/fitting room.
    No fiddling around any more it just works.


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    @vilters Than maybe you should explain it that we understand Tony. It is confusing.
    I ask this morning my husband if he can explain me clear what you mean here. And if somebody understand mechanic and physic , than he.
    Even he with Doctor grade in Engineer in mechanic and Physic don't get it.
    To block one joint in his independent movement ( and yes the collar does this) block the "Freedom of space" (thats how he call it.
    And than I had to listen half hour seminar in mechanic which put me on my limits at 7 in morning with just one coffee lol. So don't ask how he explain it to me.
    So looking forward to your video. :)


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    @vilters But I am really very interested , so don't take me wrong.If this works , than you are an genius :)


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    Here a teaser of what to expect.
    Dawn and Dork (Just 2 examples).
    Nothing for or against these figures, just wanted a generation gap to show that it works on all figures.

    Compare left and right arms down and arms up.
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    Tja; What can I say? Unfortunately discovered that Dawn has a dislocated shoulder. (Easy to fix) But that's another chapter.

    PS; I did not add-in the automatic twisting yet, but I"ll try to get it in the video. (15 min max for YouTube)



  • Is the right arm yours? Because then it looks great on dawn. And ... er ... weird on Dork. But then, Dork tend to look weird ;)


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    @vilters Hmm..How do you Pose Tony? I have just Dusk on my screen for weightmap his outfit. Here my Pose with limits on.
    There is nothing dislocated on his shoulder/collar.

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